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SES NYC 2007 – Fun With Dynamic Sites – 4/11/07

A breakdown of this session

Mikkel deMib Svendsen – deMib.com

  • Problems, Options and Solutions
  • Problem: some pages are just not accessible to spiders. Happens with dynamic sites often.
  • IRTA: Indexing, ranking, traffic, actions (get the visitors to take action)
    • Dynamic problems: indexing – a lot of barriers
    • Ranking – dynamic – can potentially outrank static sites
    • Traffic – not much difference
    • Actions – limited role
  • Dynamic Website Architecture
    • Request for page, server goes into DB, requests content (includes, variables, etc..
    • Returns final page to user
    • Problem: complexity of what happens in back end
    • Solution: bridge between front and back end, translate what goes on in back end to front end
    • Use a URL rewrite engine: complex URL — rewrite to Simple URL – don’t have to pass on all this complex information to front end
    • Static replication: can be done in real time
  • Search engines will not query your database… need to find info through navigating through links
  • ? mark is not a problem. Easy way to identify a template based dynamic web page. One file can serve up many different types of content
  • SSI (server side includes) not a problem as well
  • Extension names not a problem – .asp, .jsp, .cfm
  • Directly Related Issues
  • Long, ugly URL’s
    • Duplicate content, session IDs, click IDs, time stamped URLs
  • Indirectly Related Issues
    • Required support of cookies, javascript, flash
    • GEO targeting and personalization
  • Issues not related at all
    • Robots.txt and meta-robots
    • Password encryption
  • Soutions that work
    • Fix content
    • Add a bridge
    • Replicate content that is in a better format
    • Remove parameters, put to database table on backend, with other url that ref. that table (R=35) now you’re only passing one parameter instead of 55
    • Do not serve Session ID’s to spiders
    • Make some static pages
    • Create a sitemap, guide the search engines

Laura Thieme – Biz Research President

  • Most important – getting crucial pages indexed
  • Basic vs. advanced optimization
  • Timing – how long does it take?
  • External Factors
  • URL structure – no more than 3 variables in sites, will make it difficult to get indexed
  • Spider Activity – net tracker
  • Determine target terms – trying to overcome technology, resource and political challenges
  • Do not need static pages to rank
  • Home page titles really matter
    • Usually within 6 months
  • Category page titles matter as well
    • Add target terms to title
    • Research wordtracker data
  • Optimization – titles, headings, links etc…
  • Don’t overoptimize titles
  • External Factors
    • Is the CMS keeping you from getting indexed?
    • Research CMS system
  • Position Tech – optimize a data feed to Yahoo data feed, Froogle
  • Keep up on your site search engine (internal), check the version
  • Soft 404’s can be a problem
  • Keyword embed URLs, don’t forget 301’s, be willing to lose rank at first

Jake Baillie – STN Labs

  • Multiple paths to sme solution can create problems, must have URL appear the same when you get to the final path
  • Block print friendly pages from search engines (same content, duplicate)
  • Pick an index format and be consistant
  • DNS, domains pointing to one home page… registrars redirection not doing it right, doing it in DNS instead of webserver.
  • Do not use cloaking scripts
  • Avoid duplicate content
  • Image service – ebay stealing images
    • Use mod rewrite rule serve another image
    • Swap RegEx
    • Can do A/B testing with mod rewrites

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